Part 2 | Wrongful Conviction?

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let's jump into part two, because
I know I had a lot of people

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message me. Why did you do
two parts? Y'all? It took time.

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It took time to research this,
and I have to give it all

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to you. Okay, that's why. All right? So last episode we

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left off with David cam Right.
He was the husband and father of the

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two children that were murdered. His
wife, Kim was murdered. He had

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been arrested, and he'd been charged
with the murder of his family. Yet

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when I dropped off last time,
I told you another person's DNA was found

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on the sweatshirt that was found under
his son, Bradley. Now, David,

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remember he was a serial cheater,
but was he capable of murder?

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Right? That became the question that
everybody was asking, and his own family

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at that. You know, being
a cheater, and now you are you

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capable of killing your wife and killing
your kids? And then what would his

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motive have been, specifically when it
comes to the kids dying? You know,

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why did you have to kill your
children if you just wanted to get

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rid of your wife? So police
thought financial gain maybe something to investigate,

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So insurance became something that they honed
in on rather quickly. Did Kim have

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a policy? And if so,
for how much? Right? Because if

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she just had a ten thousand dollars
policy, I don't know if that's okay.

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Well, I was about to say
something really weird, like is ten

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thousand dollars worth murdering somebody? Like
hashtag don't murder people? But I'm saying

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ten thousand dollars worth of insurance money
versus like a million dollars. You know,

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there's a big difference there. So
they went and checked it out,

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but it didn't take them long to
find out that there was, in fact

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policies on Kim. And so when
they checked out the total value of everything,

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they found out that David stood to
gain somewhere between six hundred and fifty

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and seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars
lots of insurance benefits four to oh one

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k and assets and things of that
nature. That when they combined the estate,

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he was going to be looking pretty
good with her not there. And

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that's a lot of money. And
the more that they dug, the more

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that the police said, you know
what, we think that this marriage is

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falling apart. We think that we've
got some problems in this marriage. So

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something to back this thought that they
thought maybe this was falling apart was that

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just three weeks before Kim and the
kids were murdered, Kim had called her

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best friend. Her name was Marcy
McLoud and they had this monthly chat that

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they always set up because they were
best friends and life's busy, so they

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always made sure to make time for
this monthly chat. And the two were

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really good friends and so it wasn't
a daily thing, but they still made

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time for one another. And Marcy
mentioned that their last call between the two

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of them lasted twice as long as
usual and that the tone of the conversation

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it just wasn't the same tone that
she was used to when she spoke to

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Kim. It just wasn't like Kim
was her normal, happy self. She

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said. It was so strange that
she actually ended up when they hung up,

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it just bothered her so much that
she ended up calling members of Kim's

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family to say, Hey, you
know, has something been going on?

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Is there something I don't know?
Because friends know friends, You know how

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people act and you know when they're
off, and something was very off in

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this conversation, so she called family
members of Kim, but she also called

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other friends that they both had to
say, Man, what's going on with

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Kim? Has she said anything to
you? Is something amiss? You know,

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really trying to figure out if maybe
Kim wasn't telling her everything that was

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going on. But no one that
she spoke to knew of any thing that

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was going on. But Marcy just
deep down in her soul felt like something

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was very wrong. And while this
is circumstantial, okay, maybe even just

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hearsay at that, it's still agreed
with the investigator's theory that the marriage was

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falling apart and that David was the
only one who would have anything to gain

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from this marriage ending. So the
coroner's report also contended that at the time

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of death for the family, okay, that time of death, they said

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would have been around eight PM,
which was considered to be close enough to

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David's arrival time to the home that
he could have done this. And actually,

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the more I looked at the reports, it wasn't straight up eight o'clock.

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It said between seven thirty and eight
o'clock. Again, it's an estimate,

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right, So investigators started thinking,
you know what, this kind of

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goes with what our theory is as
well, because they said that they believed

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that David did not stay the whole
time at the basketball game that he was

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playing with friends at the church,
So they believed that he slipped out at

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some point committed the murders, likely
during one of those games that he said

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he sat out and then returned undetected, which created this alibi that he was

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at the game the whole time.
So this seemed like a pretty clear cut

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case of a husband who no longer
loved his wife, He cheated constantly,

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and now he had seven hundred and
fifty thousand reasons to have her gone.

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So David was arrested right before the
funerals had been held, and as I

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mentioned, he was charged with all
three of his family member's murders. So

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the case went to trial and more
detailed information came out, including the fact

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that David called the Sellersburg, Indiana
State Police which was further away whenever he

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made that nine one one call,
he called a police station that was further

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away than the one closest to his
home, that's the one that you heard

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the recorded call on, and so
this arguably would have created a longer response

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time and when they asked him multi
times on the recording, do you need

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medical help? Do you need an
ambulance? Do you want an ambulance?

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He never said yes, He yelled
he had to go, and then he

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ran across the street to his grandfather's
house to tell his uncle what had happened.

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Again, those actions aren't criminal,
but it does seem odd right that

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you would call a You wouldn't just
dial nine one one, You would call

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a further away nine one one or
a further away police station and then run

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across the street to tell your grandfather
what had happened. So the blood evidence

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was also really damning. That high
velocity impact blood spatter is different than drops

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of blood from like gravity, from
the dripping of a nose, or from

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holding someone as they bleed out.
The blood experts testified that the blood blowback

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found on David's sweater was likely from
Little Jill. So, if you remember

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from the previous episode, the coroner's
office specifically stated that her wound was the

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closest wound nearly a contact wound with
the gun that you know did the shot.

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So the others were shot from a
little bit further away. And this

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is where I personally have an issue
with the evidence, and I'm gonna be

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posting the photos on Patreon for you
to go look at it if you're a

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member, and I want you to
go look and see if you see the

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same things that I see whenever I'm
looking at it. So the first thing

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that struck me, and again,
I feel like this podcast isn't just about

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telling the story. It's about being
in the story and putting yourself in someone's

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shoes, because that's pretty much how
you do an investigation. You kind of

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try to see what would the average
person do? What would I do?

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And if you look at the photo
of little Jill deceased in the back seat,

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if if David cam is arguing that
he reached in, that he grabbed

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Bradley, and he pulled Bradley across
Jill to the outside of the car,

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then you would expect to see blood
where he would have drug his shirt through

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it, or he would have drug
his arm through it, because he's trying

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to argue that that's transfer blood,
that that's not a blowback, right blood.

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And so the issue I had was
that if you look at the photo,

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there's almost no blood. There's no
blood. It's like it all pulled

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underneath her, which there is a
secondary photo that I'm gonna post for y'all

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that shows after her body was removed, the blood was pulled underneath her.

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So if he reached in little Jill, is you know, behind the passenger

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seat, she gets shot from the
side of the vehicle where the door would

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be. She falls over towards the
middle seat, right, and then Bradley

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was shot from his left shoulder right
through. It hit his spinal column and

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it came out of his other shoulder, and he fell inwards towards Jill.

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So in essence, that's like they're
head to head, right, they fell

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inwards. Then you reach over Jill, grab Bradley and pull him out of

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the car. I just found that
really weird. I found that strange that

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the lack of blood, yet you're
gonna have these spots of supposed transfer blood.

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I just don't read the scene that
way. Maybe you do, you

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should check it out, but I
don't read it that way. And the

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blood found on the corner of his
shirt, okay, because and I put

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pictures there for you so you could
see it. The defense experts in the

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trial said that that could have been
from expiratory blood coming out of her nose

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or her mouth. Well, his
own claim was that she was dead when

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he got to her, so there's
not going to be any How could this

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have possibly forcefully exited her mouth if
she was already dead? Why wasn't there

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any blood of Bradley's on him.
He's grabbing a child that's been shot through

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the shoulders, through the midway of
his body. Why would it be her

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blood with that blowback or that you
know, Oh she's expiring and so she's

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coughing it up. His own words
was she was cold, that's why he

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grabbed Bradley. So if he pulled
his bleeding son that had wounds on both

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sides of him, I just don't
I don't believe what that evidence is saying.

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If you look at the pictures.
David's claim was that the blood happened

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when he leaned over Jill to grab
Bradley, and her hair must have drug

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on his shirt. But look at
the photo. Go look at the photo.

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He said he pulled brad over Jill, but she was laying inwards towards

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the center, not moved outward.
Or if you're pulling this boy, who's

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you know, seven eight years old? I mean, and you're leaning,

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and you're pulling from the opposite side
of the car to where you're pulling too.

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I would have expected Jill's head to
be moved or something along those lines,

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but you just don't see it.
I just don't think what he's saying

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is plausible. Again, it's a
personal opinion, but I kind of feel

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like it's an educated one at that. I went and looked at the pictures.

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So David's lawyers say, look,
eleven eyewitnesses can't be wrong. They

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saw him playing basketball. But the
district attorney says, eight blood spots can't

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be wrong either. They're on the
shirt. Not to mention, David cam

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had a strong motive to kill his
family, and that motive would be brought

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up in relation to the genital trauma
that Jill had endured. See, she

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was still strapped into the car seat
and she was clothed right, But the

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coroner, when doing her autopsy,
found a drop of blood in her underwear

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and believed that that was due to
molestation that had happened within the past twenty

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four hours. So prosecutors were kind
of like, hmm, maybe this is

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the key to the situation. David. Maybe got caught in molesting Jill.

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Kim found out about it, and
so he had to get rid of them.

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And it also made sense and that
the girls were executed while the sun

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was shot through the shoulder, you
know, through and through, and even

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though that ended up deadly, maybe
it could explain why he attempted to save

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Bradley, you know what I'm saying. Maybe he had to get rid of

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Jill, who knew something, and
Kim who had found out, and he,

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you know, he shot Bradley differently
and he was hitting a different area

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because that he wasn't the target right, and he was young. He wouldn't

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have known about the molestations, not
like mom would have gone to the seven

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year old and meant, wow,
your dad's been molested than your daughter.

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I mean, you're your sister.
But this theory wasn't a strong enough one

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and there was a lack of evidence. So due to that lack of evidence

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about the molestation, David wasn't charged
with it. He was just charged with

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the murders. And it was brought
up though, okay in court and the

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coroner testified to the trauma. But
the doctor did say that the injuries possibly

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could be consistent with someone who would
you know, like if you would sustain

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an injury if you fell straddling something, so like I remember being young and

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playing on balance beams, or you're
riding your bike and you slip off the

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seat if it's raining outside and you
would slip off the seat and fall and

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you would hit the bar, or
playing on playground. Whit meant those could

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cause those straddle injuries. And to
that note, there was an ant.

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Her name was Debbie Turvrey is how
I believe you say it, but she

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came forward and said that she didn't
see Jill fall, but just five days

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before the murders, they were having
this gathering, this family gathering because they

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were dedicating a family playground, and
Jill did hurt herself and was screaming bloody

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murder and crying while laying on the
ground with her legs spread apart whenever the

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ant got to her. So she
you know, there was a plausible explanation

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for why she would have had that
injury. And the coroner also said that

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Jill did not suffer true intercourse of
the vaginal vault, so she wasn't raped,

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but there is an injury, and
you know, to her genitals and

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all of the injuries are consistent with
a blunt force trauma, but more blood

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evidence would come to light. Okay, The DNA of an unknown person was

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found on the gray sweatshirt that was
laying underneath brad in the garage, and

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the DNA was still unidentified at the
time of the trial, but it was

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believed to be female. So there
was a mix of unknown DNA, Kim

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and Bradley's DNA on the sweatshirt.
Also, several items of clothing that David

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was wearing were also tested. One
of his socks had Kim's blood on it,

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there was none on his gem shorts, and Kim's blood was found on

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his tennis shoes but none was on
the bottoms. So it begs the question,

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how did you get blood of Kilm's
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you never stepped in the blood,
how did the blood get there? Because

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Kim was already on the ground when
he got there, So blood got on

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top of your shoe, but you
never stepped in it. Again, that

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just doesn't ring true to me.
So the experts had also tested the mop

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and the bucket that I mentioned were
on scene when they got there. And

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they thought maybe he tried to clean
up the scene, but whenever they tested

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them, there was no evidence of
blood found on the mop or in the

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bucket, So that was kind of
poo pooed and thrown out. And when

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that trial concluded, Davidkam was found
guilty and sent to prison. But the

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story is nowhere near over. David's
family was pissed. How could eleven people

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be wrong? Right, there's eleven
men who saw him playing basketball. How

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could they be wrong? And one
woman in the family was even screaming after

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that verdict and was escorted out of
the classroom and she was screaming, they're

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wrong, They're wrong, They've got
it wrong. And interestingly enough, Kim's

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parents didn't think David Cam did it
either, but that changed after they sat

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through that trial and they listened to
the evidence, their opinions changed. At

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the conclusion of the trial, that
trial that we just mentioned, okay,

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where he was convicted. They were
deadlocked at first, but they were instructed

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to keep deliberating, and later that
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guilty. So about a month later, this would have been April eleventh of

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two thousand and two, David Cam
was sentenced to one hundred and ninety five

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years in prison, but two years
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four, an appeals court overturned the
ruling and they stated that the judge in

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the trial should not have allowed the
evidence of adultery into the trial. And

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the argument here, or the concept, was that the infidelity evidence which had

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been used to show the motive,
was too as they said, strained and

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unreasonable. So the appeals court felt
like they pushed too hard on the adultery

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to explain why the murder what murders
would have occurred. So although David was

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lucky enough to have the case over
turned, this didn't mean that he was

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a freeman to go and life is
good. Overturn doesn't mean innocent. It

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means that there was an error in
the trial court proceedings and that you know,

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it needed to be revisited. So
it doesn't mean that the evidence was

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wrong or inaccurate. It just means
that procedurally they should not have allowed that

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infidelity information in. But new charges
were swiftly filed against David Cam and a

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new district attorney was ready to prosecute
him in this new trial. So Detective

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Gary Gilbert and Sergeant Mike Black of
the Indiana State Police were assigned to reinvestigate

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the murders. Let's go back to
the drawing board. Let's look and see

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what happened. If we can't use
the infidelity claims, then we're going to

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have to really solidify our case another
way. That said, a look into

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the evidence brought about a glaringly obvious
issue, and it had to do with

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the gray sweatshirt, the one that
was underneath Little Bradley and that unknown DNA.

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The lab found fibers on the sweatshirt
are you ready for this? That

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were identified as the cam's carpet from
inside the house. The carpet from inside

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the house, which means the sweatshirt
had to have been inside the house if

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everything took place outside, why was
there fibers of carpet from inside the house

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on the sweatshirt? Not to mention, there was a name written in the

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neck of the sweatshirt above the tag. There was a name written in it.

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Why wasn't this looked at? The
name written in the back of the

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neck of the sweatshirt was backbone and
there was not one set of unknown DNA

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There was two two unidentified sets of
DNA. So not only that was this

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big woe moment right thrown in everybody's
face. Another woe moment was that,

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to everyone's surprise, that DNA had
never been run through codis that national database

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of DNA of known offenders. You
want to talk about a rout row right

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situation. How did we miss this? How did we not run it through

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anything? So the lab was ordered
to run the DNA and a man was

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linked to that DNA and his name
was Charles Darnell Bonet. Okay, it's

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spelled bony, I'm gonna tell you
right. Nah, Okay, it's spelled

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bony, but he pronounces it bone, So whatever, float your boat,

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Bony boy, I don't care Bone
bony. So a little bit about him.

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He comes across as smart and likable
and articulate. He went by the

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nickname Backbone. He was a multi
time felon who had recently gotten out of

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prison. When I look at cases, I don't try to listen to other

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people's opinions of them. I try
to go with the court documents and try

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to, you know, develop my
own belief about what is going on here.

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And when I looked at the gray
sweatshirt. It looked alarmingly like what

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the offenders at Angola do when they
get their sweatshirts. So when they go

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to do the laundry, it's a
massive it's a massive, you know,

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operation, kind of like if you've
ever had a family member in a nursing

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home, you know you better write
your loved one's name in that. Everything

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that they own, even their shoes, you write their name in it,

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because when things get cleaned, you
want to make sure it gets back to

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the right room. Well, it's
no different in prison. If you have

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a sweatshirt that yours, you want
everyone to know you write your nickname in

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it. Right. And when I
first saw it, I was like,

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my god, that looks like prison
laundry. So let's talk about him for

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a second. He was no stranger
to law enforcement. He was a violent

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offender who loved targeting women. So
why do I say this, Well,

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a quick look into his criminal history
tells a story of violence, and his

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conviction started back in the early nineties. So in ninety one he had a

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robbery. In ninety three he had
an armed robbery which he should have served

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twenty years on. But he also
had criminal recklessness. And he also had

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a criminal confinement charge, which I
did briefly go look it up for the

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state that he was convicted in,
and basically just said, a person who

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knowingly or intentionally confines another person without
that person's consent, And basically it's like

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a kidnapping. I guess you would
call it, but they just won't let

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the person go. But it's not
I don't I didn't read into that that

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they necessarily like like grab you off
the street and you know, go take

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you and transport you. They just
won't let you leave wherever you are.

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But I'm sure there's way more to
that charge. But basically, he liked

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to attack women, punch them,
and then here's the kicker, steal their

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shoes. So he likes to steal
from people by force. And I'm saying

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this for a reason. None of
the cases, none of the other charges

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that he had done time on,
consisted of killing anyone. He liked to

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attack and steal their shoes. So
the new detectives on the case decided to

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call him up. They wanted to
have a word with him about his DNA

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being at the scene of a triple
murder, and so he showed up at

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four pm the exact same day.
The detectives had called for him, and

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at one point they showed him the
gray sweatshirt. They're like, can you

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explain this? What is this?
Is this yours? He says, yeah,

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that's mine. That's mine. I
got it whenever I was in prison.

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I wrote my name in it,
but I donated it at a Salvation

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Army dropbox right back in July or
August. And he denied. He said,

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I never knew David cam I don't
know who that is. I don't

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have any weapons, you know,
blah blah blah. But I'm calling bullshit

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from the start right there, because
we already know that armed robbery he's got.

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He does something right, He's not
afraid of a weapon. Okay,

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he's going to do what he's got
to do. So clearly not believing a

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word that he said. The police
asked him, okay, well, if

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you want to stand on business,
will you take a polygraph examination? And

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Bonnett says, sure, no problem. So he goes and he takes the

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polygraph test. We'll at the conclusion
of that test, the examiner says,

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m oh boys lying, he's being
deceptive, specifically, noting the question about

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shooting someone in Indiana, and he
also showed deception on the question about whether

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he saw the person who shot the
cam family, So they specifically broke it

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down, so did you shoot someone? And then they asked did you see

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the person who shot someone? And
he failed on both when he said no,

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I don't know anything about it.
So just to let you know,

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I am going to do an episode
on polygraphs. I'm gonna bring in my

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good friend who's a detective, and
we're gonna like hook it up and we'll

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walk through it. I don't know
exactly when that will be, but if

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you follow my TikTok, it's at
unspeakable kJ I think. But if you

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follow my TikTok, I'm doing some
short videos on it and go look for

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me. But AnyWho, you can
check that out and I'll be doing some

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videos on it. So while polygraph
examinations are not admissible in court, this

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is what we call a clue that
someone's lying or be deceptive in their answers.

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So police had to release him even
though they thought he was being deceptive.

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So he was free at least for
right now. But they did conveniently

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go put a tracking device on his
car, unbeknownst to him before he left.

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So this would show some activity that
I thought was interesting, and I

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thought I would share this with you
because I haven't seen a lot of people

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report on this. The very next
day, after they questioned him, Bonett

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went to the cemetery where the Cams
were buried. Then he went to a

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funeral home and he asked about mausoleum
pricing for himself, his mother, and

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his sisters. Now, he was
quoted a price of two hundred and one

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thousand dollars for everything. So why
is this interesting to me? It's interesting

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because Bonnet only worked a part time
job and he earned a whopping minimum wage.

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This isn't something he could afford even
if he wanted to. But his

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next statement was pretty interesting to me. It was that he would be able

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to make an eighty thousand dollars down
payment soon. Hmm. I wonder where

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that money would be coming from,
right, I mean, I don't know.

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Maybe David Cam who's about to get
seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars,

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Maybe that had something to do with
it. The other thing that kind of

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crossed my mind was this, he
asked about his himself, right, and

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then he asked about his mother and
his sister, So that would have been

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three people that he was pricing out
a mausoleum for. Could it be that

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he wanted to know what it costs
to do this for three people because he

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wanted to know what the cost was
was for David Cam who just did that

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for three people, to see what
maybe his cut should be. I don't

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know that. I'm just saying this
is where my brain went, right.

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This is purely speculation. After he
left that funeral home and he got that

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pricing, he then went within a
half mile of where David Cam was working.

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What are the chances? Kind of
seems like maybe he got some pricing,

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and then he went and said something
to David Cam like, m you're

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probably not out, but this much
money, where's my cut? That sounds

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kind of plausible to me. A
couple weeks later, a latent print examiner

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was able to match Bonie's palm print
or bonet palm print, to that of

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the palm print on the side of
Kim's bronco. So, around two pm

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that day, detectives asked to speak
to Bonet again and then they tell him,

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look, your print was positively idd
on this bronco, and he continued

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to give the same statement over and
over again until they were like, nobody,

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it's you, and we can prove
it. Here it is. And

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when they put it in his face
and said that's your handprint on that bronco,

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he asked for an attorney. But
he also stated, and this is

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a direct quote, all I know
is David Cam was the shooter. End

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quote. So he was arrested and
he was charged with the murders. But

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the next day after he wanted an
attorney and wanted a lawyer. Up in

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all of that, Bonnet says,
never mind, I want to speak to

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the police. And he gives a
five page written statement and this is what

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he tells him in essence. I
met David Cam in July or August of

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two thousand at a basketball game that
we were playing at a local park.

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He said, we never spoke by
phone, and we would agree to meet

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up at a gas station next to
the where we played basketball called Kareem's Meat

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Market, which was owned by the
way by Kim's younger sister, and they

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would meet together. And at one
of their meetings, or their first meeting,

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I guess when they agreed to meet
there. The whole point of it

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was he was asking David was asking
Bonnet to try to get him an untraceable

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firearm. So Bonnet said, look, I had a long time acquaintance.

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His name was Gary Gerkin, and
I got in touch with him. I

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bought a Lorsen three eighty firearm,
which I immediately turned around and went and

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sold to David for two hundred and
fifty dollars. And they're like, okay,

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well where you know. What did
you do whenever y'all transferred the weapon?

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And he said, well, I
gave him the gun wrapped up in

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that gray sweatshirt of mine from the
prison system. And we did that at

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Kareem's meat market the same afternoon that
the family was murdered. It was the

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same day. Guess what that happened
to be the same make and model weapon

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that was verified to have killed the
cam family. So now I found some

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more information that I haven't heard anywhere
except for in court records that I was

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looking at. On March seventh of
two thousand and five, a sergeant named

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Myron Wilkerson spoke to Bonet in the
jail, and he spoke to him for

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roughly two and a half hours about
what happened. Now. What was interesting

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about their conversation was that Myron Wilkerson
was a close family friend of Bonnet.

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He knew the family, he knew
him, and so they felt really comfortable

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talking to one another. And so
Bonnet really opened up to Wilkerson and he

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said that what happened was he followed
David cam to the house that when Kim

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arrived, he kind of waved at
her. So then Kim and David spoke

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in the garage and at that point
Bonnet heard Kim say no, you're like

408
00:30:59.400 --> 00:31:03.599
yell no, and then immediately Bow
heard a gunshot, and then he heard

409
00:31:03.640 --> 00:31:08.480
Bradley, little Bradley say Daddy,
and that's when he heard Bow. And

410
00:31:08.519 --> 00:31:12.920
then a few more seconds went by
Bao and another gunshot. There were three

411
00:31:12.960 --> 00:31:18.400
pumps that he heard. David then
appeared outside of the garage and he said

412
00:31:18.400 --> 00:31:22.599
he pointed the gun at Bonet,
but the gun jammed, and so he

413
00:31:22.799 --> 00:31:27.880
chased David into the garage, where
David ran into the home yelling you did

414
00:31:27.920 --> 00:31:32.680
this, you did this. So
look, I'm gonna tell you this.

415
00:31:33.039 --> 00:31:36.880
I don't think either of these statements
from either of the men and what all

416
00:31:36.880 --> 00:31:40.720
they have said had been truthful so
far. I think they're both minimizing,

417
00:31:41.240 --> 00:31:45.240
and I think that we're getting pieces
of truth from both of them. Okay,

418
00:31:45.240 --> 00:31:51.839
and I've researched this case, so
a couple questions I have. Why

419
00:31:51.839 --> 00:31:55.279
would you charge someone who has a
gun pointed at you? I don't believe

420
00:31:55.319 --> 00:32:00.359
that from Bonet for one second.
Why would you? Then, you know,

421
00:32:00.400 --> 00:32:05.160
why would you go to the home
of the acquaintance after you got him

422
00:32:05.200 --> 00:32:08.000
a stolen gun? So you go
get this gun on the slick, You

423
00:32:08.079 --> 00:32:10.960
meet at Kareem's meat market, you
give him the gun on the slick,

424
00:32:12.119 --> 00:32:15.720
get your two fifty. You know
he's going to do something criminal. Why

425
00:32:15.759 --> 00:32:17.319
else would he need an untraceable gun? But then you follow him to the

426
00:32:17.359 --> 00:32:22.119
house. No questions were asked.
You just followed him to the house.

427
00:32:22.480 --> 00:32:27.440
I don't That doesn't That doesn't make
sense either. Also, why were you

428
00:32:27.599 --> 00:32:31.200
just standing outside of the garage rather
than walking in with your quote unquote friend

429
00:32:31.519 --> 00:32:37.079
if he invited you to the house. I mean, no scenario is making

430
00:32:37.160 --> 00:32:42.119
sense to me. And one last
thing, the shoes on top of Kim's

431
00:32:42.160 --> 00:32:47.599
car and the evidence photos, what's
that about Bonnett claims that when he chased

432
00:32:49.000 --> 00:32:52.839
David cam into the how or into
the garage, that he tripped over him

433
00:32:52.000 --> 00:32:55.480
and then he picked him up and
he placed him on top of the car.

434
00:32:57.359 --> 00:33:00.680
I'm like, what, has anybody
listening to this ever seen Titanic?

435
00:33:00.880 --> 00:33:05.799
Just first flit? Second, have
you ever seen Titanic? Do you remember

436
00:33:05.839 --> 00:33:07.200
this part of the film? Because
this is all that I could think of.

437
00:33:07.400 --> 00:33:12.519
It's interesting the young ladies slipped so
suddenly, and you still had time

438
00:33:12.599 --> 00:33:16.640
to remove your jackets and your shoes. I mean, right, that's all

439
00:33:16.680 --> 00:33:21.599
I could think of. Funny,
Funny you had time to save her on

440
00:33:21.640 --> 00:33:24.279
this this quick trip, right,
but you had time to untie your shoes.

441
00:33:24.319 --> 00:33:28.759
Funny, you were chasing David Kim, who supposedly pointed a gun at

442
00:33:28.799 --> 00:33:31.759
you, yet you had time to
remove Kim's shoes that were randomly removed when

443
00:33:31.799 --> 00:33:35.319
she got home, and then placed
them nice and neatly on top of the

444
00:33:35.319 --> 00:33:38.160
car. Bullshit, that didn't happen. I know y'all are smelling it with

445
00:33:38.279 --> 00:33:40.680
me right now. I know you're
smelling the snank because this is not making

446
00:33:40.759 --> 00:33:45.839
sense whatsoever. But he did say
that Kim was laying on the ground by

447
00:33:45.880 --> 00:33:51.160
the bronco and that the kids were
still belted in. He said that Brad

448
00:33:51.240 --> 00:33:55.480
was doubled over in the seat,
and he said as he left, he

449
00:33:55.519 --> 00:34:00.200
claimed a woman pulled up into the
driveway. All right, well, I

450
00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:02.960
don't believe that either. I don't
think that's how that went down. He

451
00:34:04.000 --> 00:34:06.319
then said, you know, when
they asked him, well, why didn't

452
00:34:06.319 --> 00:34:07.840
you report this if that's what happened, if he you know, he killed

453
00:34:07.840 --> 00:34:10.480
his family and pointed the gun at
you, he said, well, I

454
00:34:10.519 --> 00:34:15.280
didn't report it because my sweatshirt was
there, and that was, you know,

455
00:34:15.480 --> 00:34:16.760
gonna tie me to the case.
And then he says, and because

456
00:34:16.800 --> 00:34:22.199
I'm black and no one will believe
me, dude, give me a freaking

457
00:34:22.280 --> 00:34:25.559
break, Give me a break right
there, right, You didn't report it

458
00:34:25.559 --> 00:34:29.519
because you knew what was going on. You knew that you were involved in

459
00:34:29.559 --> 00:34:35.599
this one hundred percent. So detectives
then, you know, they they they

460
00:34:35.679 --> 00:34:39.320
left right from questioning him. And
then, in a page right out of

461
00:34:39.360 --> 00:34:45.039
the Life of OJ Frickin' Simpson,
Bonnet then turns around and he starts writing

462
00:34:45.079 --> 00:34:52.800
an autobiography about the crime. The
name of the book or the autobiography Backbone

463
00:34:52.880 --> 00:34:54.760
and By the way, if you're
not familiar with with OJ Simpson. After

464
00:34:54.800 --> 00:35:00.039
he was found not guilty, he
wrote a book called If I Did It

465
00:35:00.280 --> 00:35:05.079
Okay, And he did do it
all right. But in this autobiography,

466
00:35:05.119 --> 00:35:08.320
he writes, he spills all the
details, including that he sold the gun

467
00:35:08.400 --> 00:35:14.880
to David cam knowing that David wanted
to kill his wife. He also admits

468
00:35:14.920 --> 00:35:17.800
to being there when they were killed. But hold on, hold on,

469
00:35:17.920 --> 00:35:21.800
hold on, ladies and gentlemen,
listen to me. Now stop. You

470
00:35:21.840 --> 00:35:23.119
don't have to start googling it.
Put your phone down. You're probably driving

471
00:35:23.159 --> 00:35:25.840
anyway. Be safe, okay,
But you don't have to go look it

472
00:35:25.920 --> 00:35:29.719
up because I did it for you. And no, it wasn't published.

473
00:35:29.719 --> 00:35:31.760
Okay, I'm gonna save you the
time looking for it. But the table

474
00:35:31.760 --> 00:35:36.719
of contents did list nineteen chapters,
but only nine of those chapters were finished.

475
00:35:36.960 --> 00:35:39.280
Now some of the names of the
chapters, because I did look it

476
00:35:39.400 --> 00:35:43.360
up right to see what all was
in it from the report, and the

477
00:35:43.440 --> 00:35:51.920
chapters held names such as the shoe
bandit cam Bodia spelled obviously incorrectly because it

478
00:35:51.960 --> 00:35:54.880
was a play on words there with
David cam Cambodia, and another one was

479
00:35:55.119 --> 00:36:01.360
the Chess Game, So jail staff
on two of the chapters in his jail

480
00:36:01.400 --> 00:36:06.679
cell, but the other ones,
the other seven were found at Bonet's sister's

481
00:36:06.719 --> 00:36:09.239
house. And the whole thing here
was that he said that he believed that

482
00:36:09.320 --> 00:36:15.440
his manuscript was worth about thirteen million
dollars. I'd say, you're a pretty

483
00:36:15.440 --> 00:36:22.199
confident fellow here, and he was, because he actually congratulated himself in the

484
00:36:22.199 --> 00:36:28.519
manuscript for evading investigators and then complains
with the line but and this is direct

485
00:36:28.559 --> 00:36:31.840
quote, but how could I have
been so stupid as to trust David cam

486
00:36:36.760 --> 00:36:40.920
While Bonet lies about a lot,
I think he's telling the truth here in

487
00:36:40.960 --> 00:36:46.239
this part. Something never mentioned in
documentaries about this story that I've seen is

488
00:36:46.280 --> 00:36:51.760
that over one hundred and fifty letters
were written by Bonet himself, and he

489
00:36:51.800 --> 00:36:55.920
wrote them to fellow inmate and fiancee. I think that's so dumb. Y'all

490
00:36:55.960 --> 00:36:59.360
are both incarcerated, but y'all or
fiancees of each other. But anyway,

491
00:36:59.480 --> 00:37:02.920
all right, his fiancee, Tina
Edwards. Okay, he wrote over one

492
00:37:04.039 --> 00:37:08.159
hundred and fifty letters, and in
those letters he detailed selling the gun knowing

493
00:37:08.199 --> 00:37:12.119
the plan to kill Kim, as
well as the fact that he would be

494
00:37:12.159 --> 00:37:19.079
paid handsomely from Kim's life insurance policy. Hmm. Maybe that's why he checked

495
00:37:19.079 --> 00:37:22.280
so quickly talking about David. Maybe
that's why he checked in so quickly to

496
00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:24.199
see how much money he was gonna
get. Remember it was the next day.

497
00:37:24.199 --> 00:37:27.559
He was like seven thirty in the
morning. The next day, Oh

498
00:37:27.639 --> 00:37:30.480
boy had bills to pay, right, and he had bills to pay to

499
00:37:30.519 --> 00:37:34.280
a known felon, a dangerous criminal
that he also needed to keep quiet.

500
00:37:35.119 --> 00:37:37.320
And he had just driven up to
where he was working, remember and stopped

501
00:37:37.320 --> 00:37:40.639
in. I don't know, it's
kind of telling a story. But the

502
00:37:40.800 --> 00:37:46.079
lab then came back with an id
on that female DNA, that unknown female

503
00:37:46.159 --> 00:37:51.360
DNA. They got a match and
this was linked to a woman in Trinidad.

504
00:37:51.639 --> 00:37:58.000
Her name was Mala Sing Mattinle and
she was Bonett's girlfriend at the time

505
00:37:58.119 --> 00:38:01.679
of the murders. Now maddingly said
that Bonnet told her the night of the

506
00:38:01.719 --> 00:38:06.920
murders that he was going to quote
help a buddy, and then he left

507
00:38:06.960 --> 00:38:10.039
with a backpack that he took everywhere
with him, and she fell asleep,

508
00:38:10.519 --> 00:38:14.079
but he woke her up whenever he
got back to the house, and she

509
00:38:14.119 --> 00:38:16.119
said that he was really excited,
and in her words, she said,

510
00:38:16.119 --> 00:38:21.119
he was almost panting, like he
was just overwhelmed with what had just happened.

511
00:38:21.639 --> 00:38:24.239
And he had a big scrape on
his knee. And then, by

512
00:38:24.280 --> 00:38:28.440
the way, if you go look
at the photos of the crime scene photos,

513
00:38:28.719 --> 00:38:31.440
you can see kind of next to
Kim's head, but a little bit

514
00:38:31.480 --> 00:38:36.920
further over, a scrape mark in
blood kind of looks like a scrape mark

515
00:38:36.960 --> 00:38:39.519
of someone where someone's knee might wu
hit the ground in a struggle. But

516
00:38:40.159 --> 00:38:46.639
he also then showed her a gun
and it was the same gun that make

517
00:38:46.719 --> 00:38:51.400
and model at least that was used
to kill the Cam family, which was

518
00:38:51.440 --> 00:38:54.719
interesting to me because the gun was
never recovered. They never found the murder

519
00:38:54.760 --> 00:39:00.800
weapon, so someone obviously had to
leave the house and take it with them.

520
00:39:00.159 --> 00:39:06.199
So at this point, when all
of this comes around, Davidkam's charges

521
00:39:06.280 --> 00:39:07.920
were dropped and they were like,
Okay, well we know Boney did it.

522
00:39:08.000 --> 00:39:10.239
He was there, He admits he
was there. He says he was

523
00:39:10.239 --> 00:39:15.639
there, but armed with warrants.
David was re arrested right thereafter, because

524
00:39:15.880 --> 00:39:19.239
not only did police say okay,
Bonet obviously did this, but Cam,

525
00:39:19.360 --> 00:39:22.199
David Cam was definitely involved in part
of this, this whole thing. So

526
00:39:22.280 --> 00:39:25.079
when he was arrested, he was
not only charged now with their murders,

527
00:39:25.079 --> 00:39:31.320
but they added a conspiracy a charge
of conspiracy to his list of charges because

528
00:39:31.320 --> 00:39:39.039
police believed that Boney and David Cam
worked together to kill Cam's family. So

529
00:39:39.159 --> 00:39:44.280
on March ninth of two thousand and
five, both were charged with three counts

530
00:39:44.320 --> 00:39:47.239
of murder and conspiracy. They were
tried simultaneously, but it was in different

531
00:39:47.320 --> 00:39:52.320
areas of the state. Bonet was
found guilty and he was sentenced to two

532
00:39:52.440 --> 00:39:57.280
hundred and twenty five years. David
Cam's second trial, again, he was

533
00:39:57.360 --> 00:40:00.559
convicted on March second, two thousand
and six, and he was given life

534
00:40:00.559 --> 00:40:06.559
without parole. All right, so
it sounds like shut deal. Finally they

535
00:40:06.599 --> 00:40:12.079
found the people that were involved.
So David Cam's parents were so upset at

536
00:40:12.079 --> 00:40:17.599
this second conviction, and considering that
Susie and Donald Cam mortgaged everything they owned

537
00:40:17.800 --> 00:40:21.639
for his defense, I can see
why. I mean, they put everything

538
00:40:21.679 --> 00:40:23.360
on the line for their son,
and now he was convicted not once,

539
00:40:23.400 --> 00:40:30.000
but twice for the murder of his
family. But David continued to maintain his

540
00:40:30.079 --> 00:40:35.199
innocence, and he was like,
not only did I not kill the family,

541
00:40:35.440 --> 00:40:38.360
but he was most upset, it
seemed about the molestation argument that was

542
00:40:38.400 --> 00:40:43.079
made that he molested his daughter,
and he said, I didn't do it,

543
00:40:43.079 --> 00:40:45.559
and I'm going to tell everybody right
now, everyone who's listening, I

544
00:40:45.639 --> 00:40:50.599
agree. I don't think that David
molested her. I do think that he

545
00:40:50.679 --> 00:40:53.960
killed his family. So it does
make sense to me as to why he

546
00:40:54.039 --> 00:40:58.199
was so adamant, not necessarily about
the murders right now, but now he's

547
00:40:58.199 --> 00:41:00.840
even matter about the molestation because it's
kind of like, well, I know

548
00:41:00.920 --> 00:41:04.440
I killed him, but I didn't
molest her, So no wonder he was

549
00:41:04.480 --> 00:41:07.800
so upset, right It just seemed
almost like when you listen to him,

550
00:41:07.800 --> 00:41:09.480
he's like, I didn't kill my
family, but I didn't molest her either.

551
00:41:12.599 --> 00:41:16.920
It's all on the same there at
this point. But another question I

552
00:41:17.079 --> 00:41:22.800
have is why would Bonet want to
take David cam down with him if there

553
00:41:22.840 --> 00:41:28.440
was zero connection, like none according
to David. He says that we have

554
00:41:28.519 --> 00:41:31.360
no connection, But that just doesn't
make sense to me. If they've got

555
00:41:31.440 --> 00:41:37.000
him Bonet him being Bonet saying I
did it. I was there, I

556
00:41:37.039 --> 00:41:39.440
was a participant in this, then
why would he even care to bring down

557
00:41:40.159 --> 00:41:45.519
David Cam Because he's admitting Bonet is
admitting he was there and then he was

558
00:41:45.559 --> 00:41:51.119
a part of this. So you
know, either way, it doesn't make

559
00:41:51.119 --> 00:41:52.480
sense to me. And they're both
sent off to prison for the rest of

560
00:41:52.519 --> 00:41:58.679
their lives. But not so quick
again came June of two thousand and nine,

561
00:41:59.480 --> 00:42:05.280
the appeal. Those courts reversed David
Cam's second conviction. So why was

562
00:42:05.320 --> 00:42:08.559
this? This is because the court
said, well, they felt like there

563
00:42:08.599 --> 00:42:15.039
was insufficient evidence on the molestation and
they didn't like the infidelity stuff that had

564
00:42:15.079 --> 00:42:20.880
been brought up. And so there
was also another argument that was brought up

565
00:42:20.920 --> 00:42:23.280
in the appeal, and this argument
had to do with the fact that the

566
00:42:23.360 --> 00:42:30.480
prosecutor in the second trial had made
an agreement with a book company. All

567
00:42:30.559 --> 00:42:34.280
right, so this shit's getting deep. There's a whole lot going on here.

568
00:42:34.559 --> 00:42:38.320
So apparently that prosecutor had done a
book deal with them to write about

569
00:42:38.400 --> 00:42:44.239
this story, and he had gotten
a four thousand dollars advance to him to

570
00:42:44.320 --> 00:42:49.480
write the book about the case.
So whenever the courts saw that, they're

571
00:42:49.480 --> 00:42:52.239
like, hmm, that looks kind
of squirrelly. I don't know if that

572
00:42:52.480 --> 00:42:54.119
you know, then does he have
like a reason to convict just so he

573
00:42:54.159 --> 00:42:59.159
can have the book deal? They
didn't really like it, so they removed

574
00:42:59.239 --> 00:43:04.079
that prosecutor from the case. But
to be crystal clear, the prosecutor didn't

575
00:43:04.119 --> 00:43:07.320
know that there would be an overturned
ruling, and so this didn't take place

576
00:43:07.400 --> 00:43:13.679
until after the case was over,
and that prosecutor returned the money as soon

577
00:43:13.719 --> 00:43:16.079
as he realized that the appeal had
been filed. So I just want to

578
00:43:16.079 --> 00:43:22.719
give you all the information there.
So David cam now won that second appeal

579
00:43:22.800 --> 00:43:25.039
and he was going to get to
have a third trial, and this came

580
00:43:25.079 --> 00:43:30.519
about in August of twenty thirteen.
The defense, Now, if you think

581
00:43:30.519 --> 00:43:35.320
about it, the defense and the
prosecution are having a restructure every time because

582
00:43:35.320 --> 00:43:38.039
they're having to mitigate all these issues
at the appeals court say you shouldn't have

583
00:43:38.079 --> 00:43:43.239
done that. So it's interesting though, I just want to point out they

584
00:43:43.320 --> 00:43:45.960
never argue whether the blood evidence is
real or not, or that it's there

585
00:43:46.119 --> 00:43:49.960
or not. It's more about all
these other what ifs, you know what

586
00:43:50.000 --> 00:43:58.239
I'm saying. Like anyway, so
the defense claimed that not only Kim had

587
00:43:58.320 --> 00:44:00.639
life insurance this go around, are
like, look, yes Kim had life

588
00:44:00.639 --> 00:44:05.679
insurance, but so did David.
How could that possibly be motive. Well,

589
00:44:05.760 --> 00:44:07.960
I'm kind of in my head going, well, he was the one

590
00:44:07.000 --> 00:44:12.840
planning the murder, not her,
so that's why that would matter. But

591
00:44:12.960 --> 00:44:19.079
the state also presented that blood spatter
evidence that was saying, okay, this

592
00:44:19.199 --> 00:44:22.440
was a close range attack and that
you know, the blood was obviously on

593
00:44:22.519 --> 00:44:27.960
David Cam's shirt and on his shoes. Another thing that came up though,

594
00:44:28.079 --> 00:44:34.119
in this testing that had been done
was that they found gunshot residue, brass

595
00:44:34.239 --> 00:44:40.039
and led particles to be specific,
and biological tissue particles that were from all

596
00:44:40.079 --> 00:44:45.760
of the victims on David Cam's clothing. So the State's like, dude,

597
00:44:45.800 --> 00:44:49.119
you were there, it's all over
your stuff, you know. The we

598
00:44:49.119 --> 00:44:52.440
don't care about the insurance money.
And something that came up though was they

599
00:44:52.760 --> 00:44:58.280
made an argument that the testimony in
the previous trial was not from an actual

600
00:44:58.400 --> 00:45:01.320
expert. Now what do I mean
by this. I'm not going to go

601
00:45:01.320 --> 00:45:06.079
real deep into it, but if
someone is an expert witness, that means

602
00:45:06.119 --> 00:45:10.320
that they can testify not only to
like factual information, but they can also

603
00:45:10.400 --> 00:45:15.079
pose an opinion about how that could
could have come to be. If someone

604
00:45:15.119 --> 00:45:21.079
is just a witness to the DNA
or some kind of scientific fact, then

605
00:45:21.079 --> 00:45:24.079
they're just a fact witness, but
they can't give their opinion. Well,

606
00:45:24.119 --> 00:45:31.920
the guy that had given that opinionated
information on the DNA evidence was proven to

607
00:45:32.159 --> 00:45:37.039
not be should not have been accepted
as an expert witness because he didn't have

608
00:45:37.079 --> 00:45:43.280
the qualifications for it. So that
also became a huge issue in this third

609
00:45:43.400 --> 00:45:49.679
trial, and the defense made this
other argument that the only reason Baunett said

610
00:45:49.960 --> 00:45:55.239
that David cam was involved in this
case was because the prosecution planned or threatened

611
00:45:55.280 --> 00:45:59.119
him with the death penalty, and
they said, you have a choice,

612
00:45:59.119 --> 00:46:01.880
buddy. Either you can get charged
and possibly get the death penalty, or

613
00:46:01.880 --> 00:46:07.719
you can cooperate with us, and
you know, testify that you gave the

614
00:46:07.719 --> 00:46:12.800
gun to David Cam that he used
to kill his wife. So while the

615
00:46:12.840 --> 00:46:15.000
defense is making all these arguments and
saying that you know, he just did

616
00:46:15.000 --> 00:46:17.079
it because he had to, he
didn't want to get the death penalty,

617
00:46:17.320 --> 00:46:22.039
he sure didn't, you know.
I have a few issues with that as

618
00:46:22.079 --> 00:46:24.800
well. His intentions if he was
the only guy involved and his intentions were

619
00:46:24.800 --> 00:46:30.280
to shoot and kill Kim, and
David wasn't involved. Why then, was

620
00:46:30.360 --> 00:46:36.159
there evidence in the autopsy that came
forward in court that Kim had been choked

621
00:46:36.920 --> 00:46:40.400
before she was shot. Because in
my mind, if you brought a gun

622
00:46:40.440 --> 00:46:44.320
and your plan was to kill her
to take her shoes, which is the

623
00:46:44.320 --> 00:46:47.559
whole argument here about a foot fetish, then why did you choke her first?

624
00:46:47.800 --> 00:46:52.679
If your plan was to go to
kill her. Remember Bonnet never killed

625
00:46:52.679 --> 00:46:55.320
anybody in the past. He attacked
them and he choked them and it did

626
00:46:55.320 --> 00:46:59.440
all sorts of horrible things, but
he he never killed them. He just

627
00:46:59.480 --> 00:47:02.480
took their sh sho So I just
that just wasn't sitting right with me.

628
00:47:02.880 --> 00:47:07.000
And then you have to ask yourself
if he was wearing the sweatshirt when he

629
00:47:07.039 --> 00:47:10.239
attacked Kim, which is what the
defense is trying to say he did it,

630
00:47:10.280 --> 00:47:14.639
that was his sweatshirt, Why the
hell would he have taken it off?

631
00:47:15.480 --> 00:47:20.039
Like when would that even fit into
this scenario? Oh, I attacked

632
00:47:20.039 --> 00:47:22.760
her, I choked her, I
shot her, then I took off my

633
00:47:22.840 --> 00:47:25.480
sweatshirt, and then I shot the
kids. That didn't make sense either.

634
00:47:28.760 --> 00:47:32.880
Kim wasn't raped, So their argument
to me. Is like he felt comfortable

635
00:47:32.960 --> 00:47:37.760
enough to remove her shoes, Kim, and to remove her pants, yet

636
00:47:37.800 --> 00:47:43.199
he ran off without doing anything to
her. He didn't steal anything, So

637
00:47:43.360 --> 00:47:47.239
what was his motive then to look
at her feet? I just don't believe

638
00:47:47.280 --> 00:47:52.079
that. I do not believe that
for one second. I think that you

639
00:47:52.119 --> 00:47:53.920
know, you go and you do
the same thing you've done over and over

640
00:47:53.920 --> 00:48:00.280
again, but you didn't even take
the shoes. So usually a person since

641
00:48:00.280 --> 00:48:04.599
prior history only helps to further prove
the point. But in this case,

642
00:48:04.639 --> 00:48:07.440
I don't see it at all because
Boney, y'all, he had four felony

643
00:48:07.480 --> 00:48:14.679
convictions for robbery in which women's shoes
were the target, and Bonet admitted he

644
00:48:14.719 --> 00:48:16.920
had a foot fetish and a shoe
fetish. Okay, it's true, but

645
00:48:17.920 --> 00:48:22.480
this is what happened. In nineteen
eighty eight and nineteen eighty nine, Bonet

646
00:48:22.480 --> 00:48:29.199
attacked four women near the Indiana University
campus, and he attacked them for those

647
00:48:29.239 --> 00:48:38.239
shoes. And so whenever they went
and they looked right into his belongings and

648
00:48:38.280 --> 00:48:42.800
started questioning him, Bonet told the
officer's look, it's a little strange,

649
00:48:42.800 --> 00:48:45.679
but I have a thing for ladies'
legs and feet, you know, turns

650
00:48:45.719 --> 00:48:46.800
them on. He had a thing
for it. So when they went and

651
00:48:46.840 --> 00:48:52.039
they searched his apartment, they found
a pink suitcase in Bonet's bedroom and it

652
00:48:52.159 --> 00:48:59.119
had blue and natural colored pantyhose,
and it had two shoes and then a

653
00:48:59.159 --> 00:49:04.760
panty hose. He attacked women and
he took their shoes, but he never

654
00:49:04.880 --> 00:49:07.480
killed them, none of them.
He just took their shoes. So this

655
00:49:07.599 --> 00:49:15.599
brings me to the motive. You
killed three people over women's shoes whose home

656
00:49:15.639 --> 00:49:20.000
you just happened to be waiting outside
of. You shoot three people, you

657
00:49:20.039 --> 00:49:23.719
feel comfortable enough to remove her pants
and her shoes, set them nice and

658
00:49:23.800 --> 00:49:30.559
neatly on top of the car,
remove your sweatshirt, and for what he

659
00:49:30.679 --> 00:49:36.440
took nothing, The shoes weren't even
taken. His other charge was kidnapping.

660
00:49:36.639 --> 00:49:40.400
He didn't take a person. So
I can't get over the fact either that

661
00:49:40.480 --> 00:49:45.559
the carpet fibers from inside the cam
home were on the sweatshirt. He never

662
00:49:45.719 --> 00:49:49.280
was in the house, He never
testified he was in the house. He

663
00:49:49.320 --> 00:49:52.360
never made an argument that he went
in the house, So how could this

664
00:49:52.559 --> 00:49:58.039
be what is his motive? So
then that makes me look at David Cam

665
00:49:58.239 --> 00:50:00.920
he didn't love his wife. Somebody, you don't cheat on the right.

666
00:50:01.760 --> 00:50:07.440
While in prison, he let it
be known to multiple inmates who testified against

667
00:50:07.519 --> 00:50:13.719
him that he had problems in his
marriage and that he planned on killing his

668
00:50:13.760 --> 00:50:17.159
family that night and the basketball game
was going to be his alibi. Other

669
00:50:17.199 --> 00:50:22.880
inmates testified that, you know,
he was all about getting rid of his

670
00:50:22.920 --> 00:50:28.800
family. But here's the kicker,
y'all. The last trial they did not

671
00:50:29.000 --> 00:50:34.960
allow the adultery information in and I
mean shit, David Cam was a serial

672
00:50:35.000 --> 00:50:38.320
adulterer. He had cheated with over
twelve women in the past nine years of

673
00:50:38.360 --> 00:50:45.159
his marriage, and he was actively
recruiting new sex partners up until ten days

674
00:50:45.199 --> 00:50:50.199
before the murders. And guess what
after he was arrested, he continued through

675
00:50:50.239 --> 00:50:54.960
his pre trial incarceration to hook up
with women. He even solicited a female

676
00:50:55.000 --> 00:51:01.760
guard at the jail. But they
didn't allow that adultteris personality into the third

677
00:51:01.880 --> 00:51:05.960
trial. And I'm going to do
a bonus episode by the way, from

678
00:51:05.960 --> 00:51:08.639
my patron members on the jurors,
because I found some stuff that the jurors

679
00:51:08.639 --> 00:51:14.199
said too about all of this.
He also stood to gain a million dollars

680
00:51:14.519 --> 00:51:17.840
if she were dead just about right, a million dollars and if his kids

681
00:51:17.840 --> 00:51:22.119
were gone, he could lead the
life he wanted with no responsibility. Remember

682
00:51:22.360 --> 00:51:25.360
this is the same man that did
not show up for baby Jill's birth,

683
00:51:25.559 --> 00:51:30.480
and he up and he left Bradley
and Kim for another woman as soon as

684
00:51:30.480 --> 00:51:32.840
he got excited about it. Sorry, he's not father of the year and

685
00:51:32.880 --> 00:51:37.000
he certainly wasn't husband of the year. So the prosecutors laid out their theory.

686
00:51:37.239 --> 00:51:42.320
They think that the basketball players were
focused on the game, that Cam

687
00:51:42.400 --> 00:51:45.519
somehow slipped out of the gym,
went home, killed his family, and

688
00:51:45.559 --> 00:51:50.039
then came back unnoticed. So as
to the motive too, in this last

689
00:51:50.079 --> 00:51:54.079
trial, they added the fact that
they thought that he molested his daughter and

690
00:51:54.159 --> 00:51:58.280
that the daughter told Kim, and
that Kim flipped out and he had to

691
00:51:58.360 --> 00:52:01.320
kill his family to conceal the molestation, even though Cam, like we said,

692
00:52:01.360 --> 00:52:07.199
denied the molestation to the hilt.
In the third trial, Cam would

693
00:52:07.280 --> 00:52:14.519
be found not guilty of the murders
of his family. And I'm just going

694
00:52:14.599 --> 00:52:17.199
to tell you this, there is
a difference between innocent and not guilty.

695
00:52:17.679 --> 00:52:22.920
Not guilty means that there wasn't enough
evidence that they felt to say more likely,

696
00:52:22.000 --> 00:52:24.800
you know that ninety five percent certainty
that he did it or not.

697
00:52:25.239 --> 00:52:30.159
He was not found innocent, y'all. He was found not guilty guilty.

698
00:52:30.440 --> 00:52:35.880
There was also no adultery mentioned due
to it backfiring from the previous appeal.

699
00:52:36.039 --> 00:52:39.480
And this was the whole motive.
If the motive wasn't allowed in then what

700
00:52:39.599 --> 00:52:45.320
are you left with. Everything has
motive. If you take it out,

701
00:52:45.119 --> 00:52:49.519
of course the case would fail.
Why would he have done it? And

702
00:52:49.559 --> 00:52:53.559
this is what David Cam said.
This is a direct quote. My assessment

703
00:52:53.599 --> 00:52:58.840
of the justice system, specifically in
southern Indiana is that the trial court level

704
00:52:59.079 --> 00:53:02.719
is a disaster. These people that
represent the state are incapable of doing the

705
00:53:02.800 --> 00:53:07.320
right thing. He said this to
forty eight hours. He said, I

706
00:53:07.360 --> 00:53:10.119
have earned the right to have that
opinion. I have earned that right.

707
00:53:12.000 --> 00:53:15.119
Well, I'm going to stand on
this. I think we as a public

708
00:53:15.360 --> 00:53:21.119
have also earned the right to assess
the information as well. And everything I

709
00:53:21.239 --> 00:53:27.880
see shows involvement at some level.
I cannot understand any scenario where Boney admits

710
00:53:27.920 --> 00:53:32.760
he was there and gains nothing,
yet wants to say that Cam was there

711
00:53:32.800 --> 00:53:37.679
too. The only argument would be
that he wanted to avoid the death penalty.

712
00:53:37.800 --> 00:53:42.280
But I want to point this out
too. This whole story was already

713
00:53:42.320 --> 00:53:47.199
in motion, and Bonnet had already
admitted to other people before that offer was

714
00:53:47.239 --> 00:53:51.599
even on the table. He had
written a book, he did all of

715
00:53:51.639 --> 00:53:55.679
these things. He already said that
Cam was involved before that. And there's

716
00:53:55.679 --> 00:54:01.119
also another fun fact. Davidkam owned
a hand gun consistent with the type and

717
00:54:01.239 --> 00:54:07.719
caliber used to commit the murders,
a lor Send thirty eight caliber hammerless semi

718
00:54:07.800 --> 00:54:13.559
automatic handgun. Another inmate testified during
the trial that David told him he had

719
00:54:13.639 --> 00:54:19.159
used a thirty eight caliber hammerless pistol
that could not be traced to him to

720
00:54:19.320 --> 00:54:22.159
commit the murders. And guess what
that would make sense for a former cop

721
00:54:22.400 --> 00:54:25.360
for that person to be killed with
the same type of weapon. And maybe

722
00:54:25.400 --> 00:54:29.400
you even own the same type of
weapon, But yours is here and you

723
00:54:29.440 --> 00:54:32.760
can provide it, so it couldn't
have been you. Another thing that comes

724
00:54:32.760 --> 00:54:37.400
to mind that I don't think it's
spoken on a cop behind bars. I

725
00:54:37.440 --> 00:54:39.400
want you to think about that too. I don't hear this mentioned by any

726
00:54:39.400 --> 00:54:44.079
other podcaster. You know he was
a target. You know he was a

727
00:54:44.079 --> 00:54:47.360
target because of his previous occupation.
What better way to prove that you're not

728
00:54:47.440 --> 00:54:52.199
quote unquote one of the cops than
to build camaraderie behind bars to spill that

729
00:54:52.320 --> 00:54:55.039
information. Oh yeah, I killed
him, I had to kill him.

730
00:54:55.119 --> 00:54:59.239
Blah blah blah blah blah. I'm
just putting it out there. And to

731
00:54:59.360 --> 00:55:05.800
that point, officers have GPS on
their vehicles and their whereabouts are well documented.

732
00:55:05.840 --> 00:55:07.519
We have to radio everywhere we go
when we get there, when we

733
00:55:07.639 --> 00:55:13.239
leave, in what we are doing. He quit being an officer right before

734
00:55:13.559 --> 00:55:17.159
the murders. I almost find that
to be tactical in a way. Get

735
00:55:17.199 --> 00:55:22.360
a new job long enough to not
look strange, but no longer under the

736
00:55:22.440 --> 00:55:27.199
tracking involvement with policing. This could
be a reach, but it makes sense

737
00:55:27.239 --> 00:55:29.360
to me. Again, it's an
opinion, and I'm going to give it.

738
00:55:30.639 --> 00:55:35.440
Motive and forensics are what the hang
up are for me on this case.

739
00:55:36.239 --> 00:55:42.000
That third jury found him not guilty. I don't hold the same sentiment.

740
00:55:43.599 --> 00:55:47.719
Bonet lacks motive unless there is a
financial payout, and David cam has

741
00:55:47.800 --> 00:55:52.000
all the motive. I think they
worked together, and so did two juries

742
00:55:52.079 --> 00:55:58.840
until the third trial, where his
infidelity wasn't introduced, I don't think that

743
00:55:58.920 --> 00:56:02.679
he molested Jill. The medical examiner
again said that this could be one of

744
00:56:02.719 --> 00:56:06.440
those falls where you hit your legs, you know, a bar between your

745
00:56:06.480 --> 00:56:10.199
legs. They even tested the bedspreads
in the cam home. They did find

746
00:56:10.239 --> 00:56:16.920
Jill's DNA in the bedding, but
the DNA that they found of Jill's was

747
00:56:17.000 --> 00:56:22.039
nowhere near any seminal fluids that were
found in the bedding, and the seminal

748
00:56:22.039 --> 00:56:24.760
fluids found in the betting were also
mixed with Kim the wife's DNA. So

749
00:56:24.880 --> 00:56:30.760
I just don't think that he was
raping or molesting his daughter. I don't

750
00:56:30.800 --> 00:56:34.440
think he snuck out of the game. I think investigators are wrong on that.

751
00:56:34.920 --> 00:56:37.400
I think they were killed before the
game. The times of death are

752
00:56:37.599 --> 00:56:43.679
estimates. I know that I know
that the house was only two minutes drive

753
00:56:43.760 --> 00:56:46.559
from the basketball game. Two minutes. How long does it take to shoot

754
00:56:46.559 --> 00:56:52.360
three people when you have a co
conspirator who can finish everything up, take

755
00:56:52.400 --> 00:56:55.159
the weapon and get out. All
you have to do is pull the trigger

756
00:56:55.800 --> 00:57:01.360
and then you leave. And the
kids arrived a little after seven, and

757
00:57:01.400 --> 00:57:06.280
they were killed. David leaves and
plays basketball. The gun was inside the

758
00:57:06.320 --> 00:57:08.480
house and I think it was wrapped
in the sweatshirt. That's how it got

759
00:57:08.559 --> 00:57:13.440
the carpet fibers on it. Because
Cam had the gun and he had it

760
00:57:13.480 --> 00:57:16.239
in the house. Bonnet told the
truth about waiting outside of the garage when

761
00:57:16.280 --> 00:57:20.800
he saw that when they waved.
Whenever Kim pulled up, David had the

762
00:57:20.800 --> 00:57:22.519
gun inside that house, like I
said, waiting for them to get home.

763
00:57:22.719 --> 00:57:25.880
I think they both attacked. I
think they shot the kids first.

764
00:57:27.320 --> 00:57:30.400
I think they shot Bradley in his
left shoulder because they were coming up on

765
00:57:30.440 --> 00:57:34.159
the passenger side. I think Kim
got out, ran around to the passenger

766
00:57:34.199 --> 00:57:37.239
side where she was found on the
ground, and that's when Bonet was able

767
00:57:37.239 --> 00:57:39.719
to lean in and look or the
shot was fired into Jill. If you

768
00:57:39.760 --> 00:57:43.719
look at the crime scene, it
just speaks to me like that. And

769
00:57:43.760 --> 00:57:51.000
that sweatshirt, that gray sweatshirt that
was dropped because the gun was wrapped inside

770
00:57:51.039 --> 00:57:53.000
of it, and whenever he came
out with the gun, he pulled the

771
00:57:53.000 --> 00:57:57.840
gun out of the gray sweatshirt and
when he started shooting, that's whenever shit

772
00:57:57.920 --> 00:58:00.679
hit the fan. He dropped it. And they never realized it as an

773
00:58:00.719 --> 00:58:05.719
issue. Why because they were used
to looking at it. It wasn't new

774
00:58:05.760 --> 00:58:07.960
to them. It was something that
they had already seen, so it didn't

775
00:58:08.000 --> 00:58:15.440
seem out of place. It's literally
that simple. I really truly believe that's

776
00:58:15.440 --> 00:58:17.360
what it is. I don't think
this is the crime of the century.

777
00:58:17.519 --> 00:58:22.079
I think he wanted his family gone
because they got in the way. After

778
00:58:22.119 --> 00:58:29.239
being released, Davidkam was awarded one
million dollars for each of his three family

779
00:58:29.280 --> 00:58:32.599
members who were murdered, one million
for Kim, one million for Bradley,

780
00:58:32.840 --> 00:58:37.519
and one million for little Jill.
And that was a lawsuit that was filed

781
00:58:37.519 --> 00:58:42.760
in two thousand and two on behalf
of Kimberly Cam's estate. So there you

782
00:58:42.800 --> 00:58:46.880
have it. What do you think. I know that I have my opinions,

783
00:58:46.880 --> 00:58:50.320
and I've shared them with you,
and I just know that this is

784
00:58:50.360 --> 00:58:53.480
why I'm a fan of animals.
Crocodiles, for example, they're easy,

785
00:58:54.119 --> 00:58:59.039
they try to kill you and they
eat you. But people are harder because

786
00:58:59.039 --> 00:59:00.440
they pretend to be your friend first.